The Logical Anarchy Today Show Episode 210 – Personal Property vs Private Property

Logical Anarchy Today – Logical Anarchy Today Episode 210 – Personal Property vs Private Property

Well, I’m back! Or atleast I’m attempting a comeback. On this episode, I try and detail, through rambling, the Left Libertarian Position on personal and private property and how it is an arbitrary distinction used in sophistry.

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Vault7 and the Choice Before Us

“JUDGES: At this grave crisis in the history of our country, you have been offered a peculiarly desirable gift, a gift almost too opportune to be of human origin: it almost seems heaven sent. For you have been given a unique chance to make your Senatorial Order less unpopular, and to set right the damaged reputation of these courts. A belief has taken root which is having a fatal effect on our nation — and which to us who are Senators, in particular, threatens great peril. This belief is on everyone’s tongue, at Rome and even in foreign countries. It is this: that in these courts, with their present membership, even the worst criminal will never be convicted provided that he has money… … Let us imagine, on the other hand, that this great wealth succeeds in undermining the conscience and honesty of the judges. Well, even then I shall accomplish one thing. For the general conclusion will not be that the judges failed to find a guilty defendant — or that the defendant lacked a competent prosecutor. On the contrary: the deduction will be that there are no good judges in the land” 1.

I open with this poignant quote from Marcus Tullius Cicero because we seem to be at the same point today. We are faced with the same choice. Turn a blind eye or confront and condemn evil for what it is. In Cicero’s time, he was confronting the corruption of Gaius Verres, a governor in one of Rome’s oldest provinces. Sicily. Verres was brought to judgment for complaints brought against him by Sicilian communities under his rule. Large amounts of money were demanded in restoration from Verres, so his case dealt with extortion and other accusations of abuse 2. Some (the reactionary left) may think that our modern-day “Verres” is President Donald Trump. Perhaps. But if that is true, then these same people need to likewise condemn Obama, Bush, Clinton, the older Bush., Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, and so on down the line. For all of these men have put the citizen’s rights in danger through their executive orders and actions. All of them are guilty of the same crimes as Gaius Verres. Indeed, anyone with any government authority is party to some immoral crime in some way. All deserve to be prosecuted by a skilled orator like Cicero. Cicero was successful in convicting Verres for his crimes, though unfortunately for Cicero, his love of freedom and posturing against tyranny would eventually make him a martyr. But the “Verres” confronting us today is something larger and more insidious than anything Cicero could have dreamed of. The extortion and abuse of power is beyond that of anything Verres could have ever hoped to achieve. Our modern-day “Verres” is not a single man, but government. The CIA and the “deep state” specifically.

What is Vault7?

Vault7 is the Wikileaks code name for the largest release of leaked information on the Central Intelligence Agency that has ever occurred. It details a frightening arsenal of Orwellian like weapons used to spy on… well… everyone. Wikileaks notes:

“The first full part of the series, ‘Year Zero’, comprises 8,761 documents and files from an isolated, high-security network situated inside the CIA’s Center for Cyber Intelligence in Langley, Virgina. It follows an introductory disclosure last month of CIA targeting French political parties and candidates in the lead up to the 2012 presidential election… ‘Year Zero’ introduces the scope and direction of the CIA’s global covert hacking program, its malware arsenal and dozens of ‘zero day’ weaponized exploits against a wide range of U.S. and European company products, include Apple’s iPhone, Google’s Android and Microsoft’s Windows and even Samsung TVs, which are turned into covert microphones” 3.

Essentially, Vault7 contains information to make you apologize to your tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist friend for all the grief you gave him.

You’re TV and other Smart Devices are a Microphone

EDB (Embedded Development Branch) is essentially a piece of malware the CIA used to attack smart televisions and other devices and allowed the microphone on these items to be used as a listening device 4. This sounds so insane that it just couldn’t be true, but the leaked information shows otherwise. You have “Pterodactyl” which was a project designed to be a “custom hardware solution to support media copying” 5. “Gyrfalcon” collected user information and passwords. “Sparrowhawk” logged keystrokes. Wikileaks notes:

“The attack against Samsung smart TVs was developed in cooperation with the United Kingdom’s MI5/BTSS. After infestation, Weeping Angel places the target TV in a ‘Fake-Off’ mode, so that the owner falsely believes the TV is off when it is on. In ‘Fake-Off’ mode the TV operates as a bug, recording conversations in the room and sending them over the Internet to a covert CIA server” 6.

This is some really creepy privacy and property invading criminal activity. As an Anarcho-Capitalist, I put no stock in the US Constitution as a useful document. But there are many big “L” libertarians and Conservatives that worship the document. What happened to the 4th amendment?

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized” 7.

By their own laws, they are not allowed to do this and yet here they are doing it. They are spying on you and me with the ability to enter our respective properties through our electronic devices and gain information outside of the legally proper way as outlined by the US Constitution. I hope this historical point can serve as a reminder and I suggest understanding what Lysander Spooner meant when he said, “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain – that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist” 8. My dear limited government friends, your precious document has done nothing for you!

Other Uses of EDB and “Russian Hackers”

One of the most frightening revelations in the CIA leaks is the ability to hack a modern cars computer. Wikileaks again notes, “As of October 2014 the CIA was also looking at infecting the vehicle control systems used by modern cars and trucks. The purpose of such control is not specified, but it would permit the CIA to engage in nearly undetectable assassinations” 9. It’s very clear in some leaked notes how a branch meeting was set up in applying this malware to things like vehicle systems 10. Think about that for a minute. That is terrifying. Also consider this:

“The CIA’s Remote Devices Branch‘s UMBRAGE group collects and maintains a substantial library of attack techniques ‘stolen’ from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation.

With UMBRAGE and related projects the CIA cannot only increase its total number of attack types but also misdirect attribution by leaving behind the “fingerprints” of the groups that the attack techniques were stolen from.

UMBRAGE components cover keyloggers, password collection, webcam capture, data destruction, persistence, privilege escalation, stealth, anti-virus (PSP) avoidance and survey techniques” 11.

What this means is that what the former Obama administration and the left are calling “Russian Hackers” may not actually be “Russian hackers” but the CIA pretending to be Russia. If the CIA can tamper with evidence like this, any accusation that Russia “hacked” the election is questionable and the narrative the left is trying to sell should be taken with a very healthy dose of skepticism. Perhaps the whole “Trump is a Russian puppet!” narrative was a set up by the CIA in the first place? It certainly isn’t out of the realm of possibilities.

But I Have Nothing to Hide!

I have already had multiple people say, “It’s OK, I have nothing to hide so who cares if they are spying on me?”. That’s fine if you think that way, but your preferences are not shared by everyone else. Some of us like to be secure in our “persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures” and your silly case of Stockholm syndrome is not shared by others (such as myself). So it is absolutely a violation of my person and property and your apathy to having your rights infringed has no business being forced on me. Nor is such a perspective an argument. You’re preference for being spied on through all of your electronic devices by some jerk in Langley Virginia does not count as a sound refutation of the outrage felt by people like myself.

My property is mine and no one else has the right to improperly access my property. You don’t get to set permissions about my privacy or my property.

This brings me back to the beginning and Cicero. He brought up an important question to the Roman Senate and other government officials of his day. He gave them a choice. The Senate could continue to believe that its own were above the law and they could continue to let special interest rather than justice prevail. By doing so, the perception of the Senate would continue to decline in the eyes of the civilian population. The populations both domestically and abroad would understand how “there are no good judges in the land”. Or they could save face and serve justice. What has all of this done for us? Has it made us safer? Obviously it has not.

As an anarcho-capitalist, both of these options can work in the favor of true liberty. Ideally, we want people’s delusions regarding government to be shattered and discarded. The other side, that of “good guys in politics” actually holding the CIA responsible (and maybe by some divine miracle abolishing it), is a shrinking of governmental power. Both option can be used to further liberty. But keep one thing in mind:

If this was 1776 and King George was doing this, it would mean war.


  1. Cicero, M. T., & Grant, M. (1965). Cicero: selected works. Harmondsworth, England: Penguin Books.
  2. Ibid.
  3. W. (2017, March 7). Submit documents to WikiLeaks. Retrieved March 08, 2017, from
  4. Vault7 Analysis. (2017, March 7). Retrieved March 08, 2017, from
  5. EDB Projects. (2017, March 7). Retrieved March 08, 2017, from
  6. Vault7 Analysis. (2017, March 7). Retrieved March 08, 2017, from
  7. The Bill of Rights: A Transcription. (n.d.). Retrieved from
  8. Spooner, L. (2006). No treason: the Constitution of no authority. Homewood, IL: ABC Zine Distro.
  9. Vault7 Analysis. (2017, March 7). Retrieved March 08, 2017, from
  10. Application of EDB. (n.d.). Retrieved from
  11. Vault7 Analysis. (2017, March 7). Retrieved March 08, 2017, from

The NAP (The Non-Aggression Principle)

This is a video about the ethical principle at the heart of anarcho-capitalism, voluntaryism, and consistent libertarianism. The Non-Aggression Principle.

Walter Block on the NAP
Mises Wiki


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Why Tariffs are Terrible

“Government does not have the power to encourage one branch of production except by curtailing other branches. It withdraws the factors of production from those branches in which the unhampered market would employ them and directs them into other branches.”

-Ludwig Von Mises, Human Action p. 737; p. 734 1

How supposed “pro free market” people are supportive of a tariff is beyond me. It seems to show how people that proclaim to have faith in capitalism and the free market only do so with lip service; for the act of supporting a tariff is just one of many actions that shows a profound lack of belief in voluntary exchange and free market economics. So for the sake of consistency, these people should refrain from saying they are advocates of the free market and tariffs at the same time… Unless they enjoy being thoroughly debunked like they are about to be right now in this article. The above quote by Austrian Economist Ludwig Von Mises, from his treatise on economics Human Action, perfectly explains the problem with a tariff (which is a government market regulation and tax enforced by threats of violence, that’s not “free” so it’s not “free market”). There are many undesirable implications of tariffs which I will outline on this article. But before that, I want to talk about it through this meme I created the other day which seems to have triggered some statists who don’t understand economics.

This did illicit many responses from people. Some moronic and some just innocently misinformed. The responses ranged from, “well, if they can raise the price from $5 to $6, then what stops a Mexican exporter from raising the price even higher without a tariff?” to, “Well, we have things called ‘economic substitutes’ which can take the place of Mexican goods here in the state.” The first response is without any merit, since such a person who says something like that has probably never seen a demand curve. A person who makes such a claim doesn’t seem to understand how marginal utility works or that value is imputed to goods and services by economic actors. “The value of an object is merely the importance that we ascribe to its possession for the purpose of gratifying our wants. This importance varies according to the extent of the range of those wants which, beginning with the most urgent, have already secured their gratification.” 2 This means that value is derived from the subjective valuations and utility people like you and I judge we can attain by consuming a particular good or service. So the reason a producer cannot sell at any arbitrary price is because his price is set up by a number of factors. The cost of production, competitors selling a similar product, and consumer demand. A Mexican exporter could only sell his avocados for say, $1 million a pound, if someone is willing to pay that price. And since people already complain about paying the current price of avocados 3, market pressures even in this hampered market keeps the prices at fairly reasonable level.

The second response, that of economic substitutes, does not answer the problem fully. Yes, economic substitutes are awesome, but in the case of avocados, Mexican avocados make up 60% of the avocados consumed in the US 4. They can grow avocados year round south of the border, which means that they are more efficient at avocado production than the US. And since a tariff raises the cost of avocados in the US, that means a tax on Mexican imports is a tax on US consumption (so the Americans end up paying the tax, not the Mexicans).

Henry Hazlitt debunked the concept of tariffs rather nicely in his book, “Economics in One Lesson“.

“What possible point can there be, he is likely to ask, in discussing refinements and advances in economic theory, when popular thought and the actual policies of governments, certainly in everything connected with international relations, have not yet caught up with Adam Smith? For present day tariff and trade policies are not only as bad as those in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, but incomparably worse. The real reasons for those tariffs and other trade barriers are the same, and the pretended reasons are also the same… ‘In every country it always is and must be the interest of the great body of the people to buy whatever they want of those who sell it cheapest.’ ‘The proposition is so very manifest,’ Smith continued, ‘that it seems ridiculous to take any pains to prove it; nor could it ever have been called in question, had not the interested sophistry of merchants and manufacturers confounded the commonsense
of mankind.'” 5

Tariffs are a limitation on the division of labor. Plain and simple. And the division of labor is the major contributing factor to economic development and the increase in the standard of living we enjoy today. On the topic of the division of labor, Mises notes, “Within the framework of social cooperation every citizen depends on the services rendered by all his fellow citizens.” 6 Mises also notes that the division of labor started, originally, between immediate neighbors until it circled out into the grand world economy that we have today. 7 The reason the division of labor is so desirable is that it allows certain individuals to focus on one or a few production lines while relying on the expertise of someone else to provide a good or service they are not expert in. So for example, the baker can focus on baking bread while the shoemaker can focus on shoes. The shoemaker can trade the shoes for bread so that the baker is clothed and the shoemaker is fed. And the quality of both the shoes and the bread increases for both since the baker doesn’t have to worry about producing shoes and the shoemaker doesn’t have to worry about making his own bread.

Both are better off.

Imagine if the government instituted a regulation where the baker had to trade 20% more bread in exchange for shoes from this particular shoemaker. This arbitrary law distorts the market and invariably means the standard of living for both the baker and the shoe maker decrease. Hazlitt refutes tariffs and protectionism better than I ever could with sweaters:

“An American manufacturer of woolen sweaters goes to Congress or to the State Department and tells the committee or officials concerned that it would be a national disaster for them to remove or reduce the tariff on British sweaters. He now sells his sweaters for $15 each, but English manufacturers could sell there sweaters of the same quality for $10. A duty of $5, therefore, is needed to keep him in business. He is not thinking of himself, of course, but of the thousand men and women he employs, and of the people to whom their spending in turn gives employment. Throw them out of work, and you create unemployment and a fall in purchasing power, which would spread in ever-widening circles. And if he can prove that he really would be forced out of business if the tariff were removed or reduced, his argument against that action is regarded by Congress as conclusive.

But the fallacy comes from looking merely at this manufacturer and his employees, or merely at the American sweater industry. It comes from noticing only the results that are immediately seen, and neglecting the results that are not seen because they are prevented from coming into existence.

The lobbyists for tariff protection are continually putting forward arguments that are not factually correct. But let us assume that the facts in this case are precisely as the sweater manufacturer has stated them. Let us assume that a tariff of $5 a sweater is necessary for him to stay in business and provide employment at sweater making for his workers.

We have deliberately chosen the most unfavorable example of any for the removal of a tariff. We have not taken an argument for the imposition of a new tariff in order to bring a new industry into existence, but an argument for the retention of a tariff that has already brought an industry into existence, and cannot be repealed without hurting somebody.

The tariff is repealed; the manufacturer goes out of business; a thousand workers are laid off; the particular tradesmen whom they patronized are hurt. This is the immediate result that is seen. But there are also results which, while much more difficult to trace, are no less immediate and no less real. For now sweaters that formerly cost $15 apiece can be bought for $10. Consumers can now buy the same quality of sweater for less money, or a much better one for the same money. If they buy the same quality of sweater, they not only get the sweater, but they have $5 left over, which they would not have had under the previous conditions, to buy something else. With the $10 that they pay for the imported sweater they help employment—as the American manufacturer no doubt predicted—in the sweater industry in England. With the $5 left over they help employment in any number of other industries in the United States.

But the results do not end there. By buying English sweaters they furnish the English with dollars to buy American goods here. This, in fact (if I may here disregard such complications as multilateral exchange, loans, credits, gold movements, etc. which do not alter the end result) is the only way in which the British can eventually make use of these dollars. Because we have permitted the British to sell more to us, they are now able to buy more from us. They are, in fact, eventually forced to buy more from us if their dollar balances are not to remain perpetually unused. So, as a result of letting in more British goods, we must export more American goods. And though fewer people are now employed in the American sweater industry, more people are employed—and much more efficiently employed—in, say, the American automobile or washing-machine business. American employment on net balance has not gone down, but American and British production on net balance has gone up. Labor in each country is more fully employed in doing just those things that it does best, instead of being forced to do things that it does inefficiently or badly. Consumers in both countries are better off. They are able to buy what they want where they can get it cheapest. American consumers are better provided with sweaters, and British consumers are better provided with motor cars and washing machines.” 8

What Hazlitt is highlighting here is the division of labor. The US specializes in one area while someone else specializes in another. This is no different than you specializing in growing vegetables in your backyard and your neighbor specializing in raising chickens. An exchange can occur between the two of you and both benefit. So both Trump (and Sanders) are wrong in their economic understanding of the problem. They see MORE government bureaucracy as the solution when the REAL solution is quite the opposite. We need less government involvement in the economy, not more. And tariffs are indeed, quite a bit more. A tariff on Mexican goods, as an example, will affect the areas noted here:

“In 2015, some of the top manufactured goods included:

  • Vehicles ($74 billion)
  • Electrical machinery ($63 billion)
  • Machinery ($49 billion)
  • Optical and medical instruments ($12 billion)

America also imported a great deal of agricultural, food and beverage goods including:

  • Fresh vegetables ($4.8 billion)
  • Fresh fruit ($4.3 billion)
  • Wine and beer ($2.7 billion)
  • Snack foods ($1.7 billion)
  • Processed fruit & vegetables ($1.4 billion)” 9

So this should not come as a surprise. Trump is a politician in a lot of ways and a tariff on Mexico, or anyone else, is an attempt at obfuscating the fact that Americans are the one’s getting a tax increase. Anyone who thinks otherwise simply does not understand the points I’ve raised and cited here and therefore, should be ignored as an economic illiterate. To bring it back around to that first Mises quote at the beginning of this article: When the government attempts to diminish production in a certain area that is in demand, it can only do so through force (which is not a “free market”) and by encouraging inefficiencies at the expense of the division of labor. This hurts everyone and most assuredly will not “make America great again.”

The Left’s Selective Hatred of Welfare

Socialists and communists often times like to finger wag at the wealthy for the crime of being wealthy. They view the economy and capitalism as a zero sum game where, if someone succeeded in the market, someone else must have had to lose in order to grant this success to that wealthy person. This is a juvenile hallucination of what the free market is and is easy to refute. Simply put, individual economic actors value goods differently. The Misesian perspective is that individuals engage in purposeful behavior by applying the goods and resources in their control towards “easing perceived uneasiness.” The idea that capitalism is a zero sum game rests on the assumption of value not being bestowed onto goods and services by economic actors, but from some unexplained but measurable intrinsic economic value (in the case of Marx, the labor theory of value). But things only have value to people because people exist, live in scarcity, and desire something. This is the basis of action. Therefore, value in regards to scarce goods and resources is subjective to each individual and each individual’s subjective desires, wants, and needs.

As an example, the mechanic working on your car values your money more than his time. So he spends his time fixing your car in exchange for your money. You, the customer, value the mechanics skills and time more than your money so you pay him your cash in order to fix your car. It’s because of these unequal valuations on goods imputed onto those goods and services by you and the mechanic (economic actors) that a voluntary exchange between you and the mechanic can take place and have you both walk away from the exchange with a need or desire satisfied. These subjective valuations coupled with free and voluntary exchange and contract means that each individual’s selfish desire for profit is channeled into serving the needs of their fellow man. That does not sound like a zero sum game.

Since the concept of a zero sum game is thoroughly ridiculous, lets tackle this unjustified hatred of the wealthy the left has. Generally, the argument is that the wealthy get rich at the expense of those less fortunate than them (the zero sum game). They hate government bailing out the rich and supporting Wall Street through subsidies but they seem to make an arbitrary distinction between Wall Street getting welfare and your neighbor getting welfare. I didn’t catch this contradiction until I had this twitter exchange:

Let me clarify my last statement. As an Anarcho-Capitalist, I have issues with a company like Tesla whose business could not survive without government subsidies. I have an issue with Bank of America and other corporations that are nothing more than large welfare recipients. The difference between me and this person in the twitter exchange is that I dislike ANYONE on government welfare based on principle. Unlike this person, I know based on principle, that Bank of America getting a bail out is ethically just as bad as John Doe next door collecting unemployment or welfare checks. This leftist however, does not see it that way and by their own logic and arguments undo the very ground required for their arguments to stand. So if leftists, socialists, and communists want to complain about corporations getting rich through the political system (which I also find immoral, unethical, and inefficient), then they need to express the same outrage when John Doe picks up his welfare check. Of course they will never face this contradiction in their argumentation, but I’m more than happy to continue pointing it out to them.